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Tuesday, February 21, 2012

It's Official



"South Euclid Mayor Georgine Welo said that once developed, Oakwood will be the “showcase” of the community."  

Quote published from CLEVELAND HEIGHTS PATCH , June 28, 2011

 “They have to learn that if they don’t get in line, they’re going to get run over.”  ...  “Thank you and goodbye. Crawl back under the rock you came from.”




"This is all Jane Goodman's fault. She was our first line of defense and she turned traitor on us and the plants and animals who don't have a political voice.

This issue is so much bigger than South Euclid's budget or the economic viability of Severance Mall, and Jane Goodman took the wrong side."

David Ellison






Click here to read a recently published article regarding Oakwood, by Al Norman of Sprawl-Busters.

Click here to view and sign Change.org petition - Walmart: Please Do Not Build a Walmart Super Center at Oakwood Commons

Please click on images to view full size.




Also see Plain Dealer article:


20 comments:

Garry said...

A. Travesty.

Anonymous said...

The only people who should be surprised are those who drank the koolaid and believed the nonsense that WalMart would NOT move to Oakwood.

If you voted in favor of rezoning and are now disappointed: shame on you for being a sucker.

Anonymous said...

Wal-Mart. Stay class, South Euclid.

Maybe the administrator can embed this YouTube clip. I'll bet Miller is in it. Think he'll be a greeter? Probably owes them for selling us this piece of garbage.

http://youtu.be/YvxNgdFeWqM

Garry said...

If we don't laugh, we'll cry. Where's "Environmentalist" and councilperson Jane Goodman in the pic?

None of this would have been possible without her actions.

SOUTH EUCLID OVERSIGHT said...

Garry, I totally agree. On it. Emilie

Garry said...

Check out the Green Party's David Ellison's comment about the "Environmentalist" Jane Goodman on the cleveland.com article.

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Garry said...

McKenna Associates Inc. prepared the “cover” document for the SE City Council’s ill advised, and perhaps illegal, rezoning.

Can you spot the problem?

The greatest minds at McKenna Associates Inc and the South Euclid City Council couldn’t. Neither could the SE Zoning Administrator, despite receiving 188 of them.

“Public Support for Rezoning. In response to project information mailed by the developer to all South Euclid residents and Cleveland Heights residents adjacent to the project site (more than 13,000 mailers distributed), respondents have shown significant support for the proposed rezoning and subsequent commercial development of the Oakwood site. To date, 169 or 90% of respondents approve the proposed rezoning, while 19 or 10% of respondents disapprove of rezoning. Public support for a proposed rezoning is important whenever proposed changes to land use and the Comprehensive Plan are being contemplated.”

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=aGVpZ2h0c3Nuby5vcmd8d3d3fGd4OjUwZjhmOWU2ODM0ODM1OTE&pli=1

Here’s a hint: There isn’t any box to indicate “NO!”

Garry said...

Vinny Gambini: Let me show you something.
[he holds up a playing card, with the face toward Billy]

Vinny Gambini: He's going to show you the bricks. He'll show you they got straight sides. He'll show you how they got the right shape. He'll show them to you in a very special way, so that they appear to have everything a brick should have. But there's one thing he's not gonna show you.
[turns the card, so that its edge is toward Billy]

Vinny Gambini: When you look at the bricks from the right angle, they're as thin as this playing card. His whole case is an illusion, a magic trick. It has to be an illusion, 'cause you're innocent. Nobody - I mean nobody - pulls the wool over the eyes of a Gambini, especially this one. Give me a chance, one chance. Let me question the first witness. If after that point, you don't think that I'm the best man for the job, fire me then and there. I'll leave quietly, no grudges. All I ask is for that one chance. I think you should give it to me.

Garry said...

Nice bunch - part 1:

“Speaking about his election victory and his critics, [South Euclid City Council President David F.] Miller said, “We have an educated group of residents who are not influenced by innuendo, nay-sayers, and half-empties. They see what myself and the mayor are doing and they believe in it. Their agenda was not acceptable to the majority of voters.

“They have to learn that if they don’t get in line, they’re going to get run over.”

Speaking about the Oakwood Commons critics, many of whom live in Cleveland Heights, Miller said, “Thank you and goodbye. Crawl back under the rock you came from.”

http://blog.cleveland.com/sunmessenger/2011/11/marty_gelfand_edges_incumbent.html

Garry said...

"Anything"?, "Environmentalist" and SE City Council person Jane Goodman?

Really?? First Interstate - the property owner who needed a rezoning to build his Walmart - was gonna build a church?


June 22, 2011

Ward 4 Councilwoman Jane Goodman, who grew up close to the country club and in whose ward it is located, favors the development, but said she will continue to seek more from Schneider, such as even more pervious parking lot square footage.

Speaking of the development, she said after the work session, “This is the only way we’re going to get 21 acres of greenspace. We don’t own the property. If we don’t rezone it for this, anything can go on that property — churches, office buildings, schools — and they all need parking.”

http://blog.cleveland.com/sunmessenger/2011/06/oakwood_developer_tells_south.html

Garry said...

Oh, yeah. Thanks for nothing, PD!!!

"Voters in South Euclid are being asked to approve a zoning change -- Issue 96 on the Nov. 8 ballot -- that would allow development of part of the former Oakwood Country Club into a major retail center and 21-acre park. It's an opportunity they should embrace, while also insisting that their elected leaders hold First Interstate Properties to its promised high standards for the project."

http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2011/10/oakwood_project_deserves_suppo.html

Garry said...

Am I doing something wrong with my links?

Thanks!

SOUTH EUCLID OVERSIGHT said...

No, unfortunately when you post comments on to Blogspot, for some reason they do not turn into a link. The reader must copy and paste into an address bar :( - If anybody knows differently, please let me know. Thanks. Emilie

Garry said...

Whattaya make of these comments by a city employee regarding the "Yes" only survey?

Some positive reactions

Schneider said he is receiving positive input from South Euclid residents about the project. First Interstate recently sent out mailings to all South Euclid residents, as well as Cleveland Heights residents living within one mile of the site, asking if they supported the proposed development.

Just over 200 were returned as of March 8 and, South Euclid Community Services Director Keith Benjamin said, 92 percent of the responses were positive. Residents were asked to send back an enclosed postcard if they supported the project.

And here's a link to the survey...

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=aGVpZ2h0c3Nuby5vcmd8d3d3fGd4OjUwZjhmOWU2ODM0ODM1OTE

Anonymous said...

GARRY,WITH 2R'S,,,,,,
YOU ARE ON FIRE BROTHER!!!!!!
RAPID FIRE COMMENTS,RAZOR SHARP,AND IF YA DON'T GET A GOOD LAUGH AT SOME OF THEM,YOU MUST BE ROOM TEMPERATURE.
MANY GREAT POINTS.THE ABSURDITY,HYPOCRISY,STUPIDITY,OF THE POLITICS,POLITICIANS,AND OUR FELLOW CITIZENS IS NOTHING LESS THAN ASTOUNDING!
YOUR COMMENTS ARE GREAT.

Garry said...

Al Norman, of Sprawl-Busters renown, has posted a new article about this "Walmart Village featuring Goodman Pahhk @ Oakwood" fiasco.

http://www.sprawl-busters.com/search.php?readstory=3940

Anonymous said...

HEY GARRY,
I JUST READ;THANKS TO S.E.OVERSIGHT POSTING IT,AND YOU MENTIONING IT; THAT 'SPRAWL BUSTERS'STORY.
AND AGAIN I AM TOTALLY BEFUDDLED. NOT BY THE 'REVELATIONS' OF THE PIECE,IT AIN'T ROCKET SCIENCE.THIS DUDE AL NORMAN,NOT EVEN FROM HERE,NOT ONLY UNDERSTANDS,BUT COMMUNICATES QUITE CLEARLY,EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON HERE!
I AM BEFUDDLED(GOOD WORD,I LIKE IT)AT HOW BLIND,HOW IGNORANT,HOW GULLIBLE ALL THE CITIZENS ARE THAT VOTED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT!THIS ISN'T ABOUT $117 A VOTE FIRST
INTERSTATE SPENT PER VOTE.IT'S ABOUT THE STUPIDITY OF OUR FELLOW CITIZENS FOR SELLING THEMSELVES SO CHEAPLY!
BAAAAAAAAAA,,,,C'MON,,,,IF YER GONNA SELL OUT YER FAMILY'S FUTURE HOLD OUT FOR MORE,PLEASE!
YA DON'T JUST GIVE IT UP LIKE A $20.00 WHORE SPREADING HER HAIRY,SWEATY LEGS! THIS AIN'T PITTSBURGH!
BAAAAAA
NOW GARRY,YOU REALLY IMPRESS ME,AND I THINK EMILIE TOO,,,,,YOU HAVE POTENTIAL,A LOT OF POTENTIAL....
I THINK YOU HAVE A FRESH,CLEAR,CONCISE VIEW OF EVENTS.
AND WAY TOO MUCH TIME ON YER HANDS 'CAUSE YOU KNOW WAAAY TOO MUCH SH*T......BAAAAAAAAA...
I WANT TO ASK YOU YOUR HONEST FEELING ON THIS QUESTION,
AND I WOULD ASK EMILIE AND DAVE ALSO,,,,,THIS QUESTION,,,AND DON'T GO ALL POLITICAL ON ME,BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE TO AGREE TO THIS ASSUMPTION,AND THAT IS 'THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS DON'T REALLY HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHAT THEY ARE VOTING FOR',FOR WHATEVER REASON,PERIOD.THE AFFECTS ON OTHER CITIES,ECONOMIES,ENVIRONMENT,TAXES,,,WHATEVER.
MOST VOTERS JUST REALLY DON'T GIVE A RATS ASS AS TO THE LONG TERM IMPLICATIONS.THEY VOTE FOR THE SLICKEST AD CAMPAIGN.
OH,THE QUESTION,,,,BAAAAAA,,,,,,'WILL ANYTHING EVER CHANGE? WILL PEOPLE EVER VOTE FOR 'TRUTH'?
WILL THE RUSSOS AND DIMORRAS EVER BE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE,INSTEAD OF INDICTED OUT OF OFFICE?WILL PEOPLE EVER SEE THROUGH POLITICAL AND COMMERCIAL LIARS?
GARRY,,,IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY?????

Garry said...

The good people of South Euclid were cold-heartedly sold out by their mayor and city council.

When the "Environmentalist" leads the deception, going so far as to use the developer's lawyers to file a complaint against the grass roots green opposition, and designs the Trojan horse "Pahhk" (retention basin), whatcha gonna do?

Anonymous said...

GARRY IS 'DEAD ON'.
"WHACHA' GONNA DO 'BOUT IT"?
WHAT CAN YOU DO ABOUT IT?
ABSOLUTELY 'NUTTIN'!
NUTTIN YA CAN DO.
WHEN YOUR ELECTED 'LEADERS' TURN AGAINST YOU,LIE TO YOU,AND SELL YOU OUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH OVER FOR YOU.
GARRY IS ALSO RIGHT(AND VEERY,VEEERY KIND) WHEN HE SAYS "THE GOOD PEOPLE OF SOUTH EUCLID..."
YES,THE PEOPLE ARE GOOD.NO MATTER WHAT SIDE OF ANY ISSUE ONE TAKES.
WE ALL WANT WHAT WE BELIEVE IS GOOD AND JUST FOR ALL OF US.
COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS,AND TOLERANCE ON ALL SIDES.WE ALL GOTTA LIVE TOGETHER.
NOW THROW IN A POLITICIAN,,,,
A CRAPPY BUNCH OF POLITICIANS,,,,
AND LOOK AT THE MESS.
'WE' ARE NOT THE PROBLEM!OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE THE PROBLEM.
'WE' ALL THE CITIZENS,OF ALL THE COMMUNITIES HERE.S.E.,BEACHWOOD,SOLON,SHAKER,
UNIVERSITY HTS.;WE ARE ONE AND THE SAME.FORGET ALL THE ETHNIC,RACIAL,RELIGIOUS BULLCRAP THAT CERTAIN GROUPS WANT YOU TO BELIEVE.THE TRUTH AS TO WHY SOME 'HOODS' PROSPER,WHILE OTHERS DON'T IS BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY AND MORALS OF THEIR ELECTED LEADERS.
S.E. DOESN'T HAVE THOSE KIND OF LEADERS.AND WHEN IT COMES TO VOTING,WE AREN'T GIVEN A CHOICE OF CANDIDATES THAT POSSES THOSE QUALITIES.
GREAT CITIES WITH LOW TAXES AND
GREAT SCHOOL SYSTEMS HAVE GREAT LEADERSHIP.
THEY DON'T SELL OUT THEIR COMMUNITIES,OR 'PISS' AWAY MONEY
ON FIASCOES LIKE CEDAR CENTER NORTH!
LIKE GARRY SAID,"WHATCHA GONNA DO 'BOUT IT"?

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