The post entitled The Raise Revisited...And More contains Councilman Miller’s pontification regarding several issues, including his disdain for “outsiders.” Apparently, that portion of his dogmatic monologue was directed toward South Euclid Oversight, despite homeownership and taxpayer status. That is perplexing due to the number of Administrative appointees who reside outside the city limits.
Although requested, a response to the letter below was never received.
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- Director of Community Services / Clerk of Council
- Place of Residence: Cleveland
- 2008 Salary: $65,00
- Economic Development Manager
- Place of Residence: Solon
- 2008 Salary: $69,659
- Fire Chief
- Place of Residence: Highland Heights
- 2008 Salary: $99,048
- Police Chief
- Place of Residence: Aurora (Portage County)
- 2008 Salary: $99,248
- Executive Secretary to Mayor and Law Department
- Place of Residence: Cleveland Heights
- 2008 Salary: $49,572
- City Engineer
- Place of Residence: Chardon (Geauga County)
- 2008 Earnings: unknown
- Law Director
- Place of Residence: Highland Heights
- 2008 Salary: *base pay = $54,416 (part time) + billable hours - please see below:
More Legal Spending: Jan 2004 - Dec 2006
Legal Spending: October 2007 - July 2008
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If everyone in South Euclid who can read and google knew about this sight there would be large scale personnel changes at city hall. The only other scenerio I can see is exodus.
WHAT'S THE POINT HERE?
(JUST CALL ME "CAPS GUY",I'M A LAZY TYPER,I'M NOT YELLING,THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YA' CAN DO WHEN YOU TYPE W/2 FINGERS!)I MEAN,THESE ARE "PROFESSIONAL" CAREERS ARE THEY NOT? DON'T THEY DESERVE A SALARY COMMENSURATE TO THEIR POSITION? AND I DON'T SEE ANY OF THEM GETTING $15,000 RAISES.(BOY,I'LL BET THAT SURE PISSED OF ALL THE CITY WORKERS,WHOOOWHEEE,
IF SOMEONE I WORKED WITH,HAD ONLY 3YEARS ON THE JOB,AND WAS ABOUT TO GET THAT HUGE A RAISE....)
GETTING BACK TO THE ISSUE,I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHERE THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE EITHER.THIS ISN'T CLEVELAND,WHERE WORKERS ARE FORCED TO LIVE IN THE CITY.WHY PUNISH THESE EMPLOYEES BY MAKING THEM LIVE IN THE CITY THEY WORK FOR,ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY KNOW THE INSIDE WORKINGS,AND ALL THE QUESTIONABLE GOINGS ON.THESE ARE PROBABLY GOOD DECENT WORKERS,DEDICATED TO THEIR JOBS,AND WHEN THE WORKDAY IS OVER,WANT TO GET AS FAR AWAY AS THEY CAN FROM THE SLIMY POLITICIANS THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH
DAY IN AND DAY OUT.THE DIMORA'S,RUSSO'S,THE POLITICAL HACKS THAT HAVE SOLD THEIR SOULS TO THEM.WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE,RIGHT MAYOR WELO? LOVE TO HAVE THEIR PICTURES TAKEN WITH THESE SCUMBAGS.
WITH THE F.B.I. DIGGING INTO THEIR QUESTIONABLE DEALINGS,I'D BE RUNNING AS FAR AWAY FROM ANYONE EVEN REMOTELY CONNECTED TO THEM.
YOU KNOW,COME TO THINK OF IT, THE SALARIES YOU HAVE POSTED PROVE ONE THING TO ME.THESE MEN AND WOMEN DESERVE MORE COMPENSATION,
AND MUCH,MUCH,MORE RESPECT FROM US FOR HANDLING THE IMMENSE RESPONSIBILITIES THESE POSITIONS DEMAND.NOT REQUIRED,ASSUMED,OR JUST "PART OF THE JOB".THESE POSITIONS "DEMAND" PEOPLE,WITH MORE DEDICATION,PROFESSIONALISM,
SKILLS,AND SELFLESS COMPASSION THAN 98% OF US WOULD EVER HAVE TO GIVE TO OUR JOBS.THEY ARE "SOLDIERS".AND THEY DO MAKE THE ULTIMATE SACRAFICE FOR US WHEN DUTY CALLS!
EXCEPT FOR....O.K.,,,,I WON'T SAY WHO,BUT WE KNOW A FEW OF THEM GUYS ARE HIDIN' UNDER THE DESK WHEN THE CRAP HITS THE FAN.AND I KNOW FER' SURE IT AINT GONNA BE THE POLICE CHIEF,FIRE CHIEF,OR EXECUTIVE SECRETARY TO THE MAYOR...
SO,WHATS THE BEEF WITH THEIR SALARIES,AND WHERE THEY LIVE????
YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKEUP CRAP TO TRY TO PISS US OFF,THERE'S TOO MUCH REAL,SCARY,OFFENSIVE BULL****,GOIN' ON UP THERE AT CITY HALL FER' THAT.IF YOU'RE TRYING SOMEHOW TO BE INFORMATIVE,
THEN PLEASE,ALL I ASK OF YOU,OVERSIGHT OWNER,IS WHAT I EXPECT COUNCIL TO DO,WHAT I TRY TO DO WITH MY OPINIONS,(SO,YEAH,I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS)PLEASE,PLEASE,WE NEED TO ADDRESS REAL ISSUES,YEAH,THE BORING CITY INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES,AND OF COURSE,A LOT OF JUICY,INSANE,ATTEMPTS AT POWER GRABBING,OVER TAXING,RELENTLESS ASSAULTS ON OUR CONSTTUTIONAL RIGHTS BY OUR MISGUIDED,
ILLINFORMED,FAR TOO LIBERAL,
DOGOODER,RACIST-SEXIST CRYING,(THATS THE JACKSON-SHARPTON DEFENSE)LET'S NOT EVEN GO THERE NOW.
"LET'S KEEP IT REAL" TO USE AN OLD PHRASE.
I'D LOVE TO KEEP GOING BUT I HAVE VISITORS,,,,,,LATER,"CAPS GUY" OUT.
LATER....
"CAPS GUY": You totally missed the point of this post. It’s not about which city employees live in the city. The reporters from the Sun Messenger and the Plain Dealer don’t live in South Euclid either, yet they report the stories.
"CAPS GUY" HERE.
FIRST OF ALL,I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR NOT ONLY POSTING MY COMMENTS,BUT,ALLOWING ME TO CREATE AN IDENTITY,SOMEWHAT,KNOWING THERE COULD BE IMPOSTERS OUT THERE,SAYING THEY ARE ME,BUT AFTER READING ALL THE "CRAP",(FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD),ABOUT CREATING A "BLOGGER IDENTITY",I AM NOT COMFORTABLE AGREEING TO ALL THE REQUIREMENTS,THAT ONE IS REQUIRED
TO,IN ORDER TO CREATE A "BLOGGER" IDENTITY.PARANOIA,MAYBE,FREEDOM OF SPEECH,WITHOUT A DOUBT.AND YES,I KNOW THAT TRULY THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ANONYMITY(YOU TRY LOOKIN' THAT WORD UP IN THE DICTIONARY,WOW...)BUT I FEEL SAFER
WRITING THIS WAY.AND TRUST ME,IT'S ME.
I DON'T THINK I MISSED THE POINT AT ALL ABOUT THAT POST.
OF COURSE IT'S NOT ABOUT WHERE THESE PEOPLE LIVE!AND IT'S NOT ABOUT THEIR SALARIES!
WHAT IT IS ABOUT IS WHY DIDN'T I SEE ANY REPORTING IN THE "SUN" ABOUT THIS 15K RAISE? WHY DID I FIRST READ ABOUT IT HERE,ON THE S.E.O. OVERSIGHT PAGE??????
IT WAS NOT REPORTED IN THE "SUN".
THE POINT THAT YOU SEEM TO MISS IS THAT THIS SITE(YOUR SITE) HAS PROVEN TO BE A MORE RELIABLE SOURCE OF INFORMATION
THAN THE "SUN".AND HAVING PROVED THAT YOU REPORT MORE OF THE TRUTH,
YOUR SITE REVEALS MORE OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING AT CITY HALL,WHAT PURPOSE DOES IT SERVE TELLING US WHAT THESE PROFESSIONAL POSITIONS,POLICE CHIEF,FIRE CHIEF MAKE ,AND WHERE THEY LIVE,WHAT PURPOSE DOES THIS SERVE?????
WHAT POINT DID I MISS??????
I ASK,WHY ARE YOU NOW DEFENDING THE PLAIN DEALER AND THE "SUN"????
IS THIS WHAT YOU CALL "REPORTING"?
PLEASE,TELL ME IT AINT SO!!!!
AND ANOTHER THING,I DIDN'T SEE THIS INFO(GOSSIP) IN THE "SUN",OR THE P.D., EXACTLY WHAT "STORY" DO YOU REFER TO BEING REPORTED BY THESE UPSTANDING,RESPECTABLE WRITERS????
"THEY REPORT THE STORIES",,,,
RIIIIIIGGHTTTTTTT............
AND SINCE WHEN DOES,WHAT I HAD BELIEVED TO BE AN HONEST SOURCE OF TRUTH,OF HONESTY,OF UNBIASED,NON POLITICAL OPINIONS,AND OBSERVATIONS,DEFEND THE P.D.,OR "SUN",AND PRESENT,WHAT YOU ATTRIBUTE TO THESE "CLOWNS",(SORRY),REPORTERS,,,
AS LEGITIMATE,RESPONSIBLE REPORTING??????????
YOU INSULT ME!I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT YOU TRY TO DEFEND THIS "CRAP"
AS LEGITIMATE NEWS.
JESUS H. CHRIST.....IS THERE NO HOPE? SHOULD I JUST CRAWL INTO A HOLE,ACCEPT THAT THERE IS NO PLACE LEFT FOR HONEST NEWS AND OPINIONS????OH LORDY,I HOPE IT AIN'T SO.
YOU KNOW,I JUST WENT TO AN EVENT TONIGHT HONORING SOME WOMEN,ALL OF THEM OVER 90 YEARS OLD,GONNA BE BAT'MITZVAY'D(BAD SPELLING),
ABSOLUTELY AWESOME....THEIR STRENGTH,THEIR MORALS,THEIR COMMITMENT TO WHAT IS RIGHT,GOD GIVEN,BELIEF IN THE TRUTH.....
AND YOU TRY TO TELL ME THAT THIS IS "GOOD","RESPONSIBLE",REPORTING........
"CAPS GUY" SAYS YOU BETTER GO BACK,AND EXPLORE WHY YOU STARTED THIS SITE.I'M NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE YOUR READERS,BUT YOU BETTER HAVE BALLS MADE OF TUNGSTEN STEEL,AND HAVE THE STRENGTH TO PROVE TO YOUR READERS THAT YOU HAVEN'T GONE OVER TO THE "DARK SIDE".
I STILL THINK THIS WAS IRRESPONSIBLE,CHEAP SHOT,CRAPPY JOURNALISM.
CALL ME CRAZY,CAPS GUY,
WE CAN DO BETTER.....
Thanks sincerely for the kind words : “THE POINT THAT YOU SEEM TO MISS IS THAT THIS SITE (YOUR SITE) HAS PROVEN TO BE A MORE RELIABLE SOURCE OF INFORMATION THAN THE “SUN”. AND HAVING PROVED THAT YOU REPORT MORE OF THE TRUTH. YOUR SITE REVEALS MORE OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING AT CITY HALL.” That’s a very cool thing to say CAPS GUY. That’s the reason for doing this. People need to know.
Regarding the root of your post- Whoa CAPS GUY, hang on. Somehow you did indeed get the wrong idea here. So sorry for the obvious miscommunication.
Do not panic CAPS GUY – SEO by NO means meant to defend the Plain Dealer or the Messenger with the following: “The reporters from the Sun Messenger and the Plain Dealer don’t live in South Euclid either, yet they report the stories.”
Positively –NO—defending of the Plain Dealer and particularly the Messenger. Please. Erase that thought from your brain. Not true, in fact, quite the opposite. If you read the letter accompanying that post it explains that City officials in the past have a tendency to display hostile tendencies toward SEO. Most recently, when a Councilman referred to SEO as “outsiders” because some involved don’t reside in South Euclid. Apparently being a home owner and paying property taxes as my family has for over 55 years doesn’t get you any respect in certain circles connected to city hall. So the comments regarding the “reporters” writing stories about SE when they live in another municipality was not supposed to in any way shape or form be misconstrued as defending either publication. CAPS GUY – The point of that being they dog us and say we don’t deserve to be treated as equals because we don’t live in SE. The fact of the matter AND THE POINT – is – What’s the saying, “he who lives in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones?” Some of these same people who may work for the City and receive lots and lots of taxpayer dollars to supposedly act as “public servants” are pooh-poohing and finger pointing some of us while living elsewhere themselves. And they are not property/home owners. Their only stake in the community is their paycheck. I agree that it doesn’t matter that they live elsewhere. Who cares? But don’t throw rocks this way and say that taxpayer status means nothing if you don’t live in SE.
Please say you get it CAPS GUY, because it’s way too late at the moment. Again, many apologies for miscommunicating, and using some very poorly chosen words. Thanks for jumping in and throwing a punch now and then if you think SEO is out of line. Feel free to submit short commentary for publishing. You can have your own column that appears from time to time as a main post. Let’s call it “CAPS GUY COMMENTARY” or something...
SEO out.
So from what I have seen, the "Community Center Director" wants a $15,000 raise after 3 years, while already making $45,000. South Euclid does not have a great community center or many community events by any means. It is great to see these positions making more money than the Fire Rescue and Police. Politics turn my stomach inside out. Also, the way the city budgets, also the school system plays a HUGE part in why my house is on the market to leave to a better place to live. South Euclid overall is not what it was 20 years ago, And it's not just from the economy.
ME AM "CAPS GUY",ME SORRY FOR GOING NEANDERTHAL......
SORRY SEO,I GET THE POINT,I DO STAND CORRECTED,AND ALSO HUMBLED.
AND WILL ALSO CORRECT MY STATEMENT ABOUT CERTAIN ANATOMICAL APPENDAGES
THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE,THEY ARE INDEED,NOT BRASS,BUT TUNGSTEN STEEL.WITHOUT GOING INTO ALL THE METALURGICAL DIFFERENCES,I'LL JUST CHOOSE TUNGSTEN,ONE OF THE HEAVIEST,DENSEST,ELEMENTS KNOWN TO MAN.SEO DOES INDEED HAVE THEM!AND I GUESS A WOMAN OR MAN CAN BE DESCRIBED AS HAVING THEM IN A DESCRIPTIVE SENSE.
TO TAKE THE TIME,PUT FORTH THE EFFORT,TO PLACE YOURSELF IN "THE LINE OF FIRE",AND TO TAKE THE CRITCISM HEAPED UPON YOU,THE ATTACKS,VERY REAL ATTACKS,THAT YOU EXPOSE YOURSELF TO....IN ORDER TO INFORM US,TO GIVE US AN ALTERNATIVE SOURCE OF INFORMATION,
AND YES,HASN'T GONE OVER TO THE DARK SIDE,I APOLOGIZE(EXPLAIN LATER),I STILL WILL TRUST SEO OVER THE P.D.,OR "SUN" (BUT I STILL LIKE MARY JANE SKALA(SUN),AND THINK SHE BLOWS AWAY ANY OF THE CURRENT,OR RETIRED P.D. COLUMNISTS).SOMETIMES I THINK SHE SECRETLY IS CONNECTED TO SEO SITE,,,,,CRAZY,,,,BUT SHE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE POLITICALLY,AND SHE KNOWS HOW TO ALSO TO FORGET ALL THE POLITICAL NONSENSE AND GO ABOUT HER LIFE AND TELL US ABOUT HER TRIPS,HER LIFE EXPERIANCES,THE THINGS THAT REALLY MATTER MOST IN OUR LIVES,(UNLESS YOU'RE RUSH LIMBAUGH,OR GLENN BECK,GET A LIFE,WE'RE PARANOID ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!),FAMILY,FRIENDS,VACATIONS,,,,I'M GETTIN' OFF TRACK A LITTLE.....(CAN YOU MAKE THIS LITTLE "BLOG" BOX BIGGER? WIDER,ACTUALLY)AFTER READING YOUR RESPONSE,I SEE YOU DEFINATELY NEED AS MUCH,IF NOT MORE SPACE THAN I USE WHEN YOU REALLY GET GOING.
I WANTED TO EXPLAIN MY "DARKSIDE" COMMENT,AND WHY I SAY THAT.TOO MUCH OF WHAT WE READ,AND SEE ON T.V., IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE,IT'S NOT AN OUTRIGHT LIE,BUT INFORMATION PRESENTED AS FACT IS "TAINTED" TO SAY THE LEAST,AND IS PRESENTED ON ABC,NBC,FOX,CNN,ONLINE NEWS,AND NEWSPAPERS.TAKE TODAY FOR EXAMPLE,3/25/09,HEADLINE"STUDY DETERMINES EATING RED MEAT CAUSES EARLY DEATH"
I READ IT ON FOX NEWS ONLINE,SAW IT ON KATIE COURIC.READING THE ENTIRE ARTICLE ON THE FOX NEWS SITE EVENTUALLY TELLS YOU THE PEOPLE IN THE STUDY VARIED IN AGE FROM 55 TO 75,THERE WERE NO STATS AS TO THEIR WEIGHT,PHYSICAL CONDITION,FAMILY HISTORY,ETC.,AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY ATE WAS WHAT THEY COULD "REMEMBER",AND READING FURTHER,THE PEOPLE AFFILIATED WITH THIS SO CALLED RESEARCH WERE QUOTED AS SAYING "A DIET LOW IN RED MEAT WOULD ALSO HELP THE ENVIRONMENT BY REDUCING THE GREENHOUSE GASSES EMITTED BY RAISING SO MANY CATTLE TO FEED PEOPLE".DO YA THINK MAYBE P.I.T.A. OR SOME ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP WAS SPONSORING THIS STUDY??? THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO TRUTH TO THIS STORY!YET PEOPLE WILL JUMP TO BELIEVE IT.
I HAVE BECOME CYNICAL ABOUT EVERYTHING I READ AND SEE.THE TRUTH IS TWISTED BY EVERY SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP,SO CALLED STATISTICS ARE LIES.YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW ANYMORE WHAT THE TRUTH IS...EXCEPT FOR THIS SITE.I DO STILL HAVE TRUST AND FAITH IN SEO.
ON THAT,I'LL END.I THINK I'M GETTIN' CARPAL TUNNEL...
LET'S SEE WHERE WE'RE HEADED,THERE'S A LOT MORE TO LIFE,AND LATELY,POLITICS IS JUST A MAJOR BUMMER,DEPRESSING,KIND OF LIKE A CESSPOOL,,,,ONLY THE CRAP RISES TO THE TOP,AND THE WHOLE MIX IS FOUL,,,,,
"CAPS GUY" OVER AND OUT
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