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The following is a replica of the email sent to the Sun Messenger on April 12, 2009 regarding the previous article:
Mr. Wittenberg-
I read with great interest your recent article in the Sun Messenger concerning Peter Rubin dba The Coral Company and the development at Cedar Center. A few things have come to mind:
At what point in time did this project become a public / private partnership? At the time the original concept of eminent domain was presented to the public, the Cedar Center redevelopment did not include tens of millions of taxpayer dollars. When did that change? Why did the public not get the opportunity to weigh in on that decision? Please review the information presented at the following link:
The original “Development Agreement” between South Euclid and The Coral Company expired in January 2009. It does not have any clause which allows for an automatic renewal or extension of the contract. Has there been a new or revised contract signed? Here is a link to the original agreement:
A number of fascinating questions have been raised concerning Cuyahoga County and the public money being used for the Medical Mart. Those questions are valid for the Cedar Center venture also:
- Who will provide oversight for the project?
- How will the public keep track of how its money is spent?
- How can the City choose to partner with The Coral Company without public bidding?
The Cleveland Heights/University Heights School District has not yet agreed to the $14 million TIF proposal. According to my sources, the City of South Euclid has extended the deadline for CHUH to render a decision until the end of this calendar year. Any public statements made by either South Euclid or Peter Rubin regarding the commencement of construction prior to the approval of the TIF proposal by CHUH would appear premature, inaccurate and misleading.
What will be the financial result if CHUH does not agree to the TIF proposal?
South Euclid Oversight has provided a host of public records and documents regarding Cedar Center. Below are some links:
- http://southeuclidoversight.blogspot.com/2008/08/irreconcilable-details.html
- http://southeuclidoversight.blogspot.com/2008/07/crunching-numbers.html
- http://southeuclidoversight.blogspot.com/2008/06/cedar-center-facts.html
- http://southeuclidoversight.blogspot.com/2009/02/behind-scenes.html
I sincerely thank you for your time and interest in this matter and look forward to your reply.
Here is the response received on April 13, 2009:
"Thanks for your e-mail. I am busy working on deadline today and tomorrow, so I will read the links you sent later in the week. I actually don't know if I will be doing any further articles on Cedar Center, as I was just filling in for Jeff, who is on medical leave. But I will be sure to share your e-mail with him when he returns. "
Please click on the following link to view more information regarding "TAX INCREMENT FINANCING" (TIF) including videos of the actual presentations to the CHUH School District made by Key Bank, (on behalf of the City of South Euclid), and Peter Rubin, President of The Coral Company:
On April 13, 2009 at the South Euclid Council Meeting, the Law Director responded to questions about Cedar Center. The video is located below.
- The “development agreement” was extended for 90 days, which would make the expiration date of that document April 30, 2009. Then what?
- The “TIF” has not been approved by the CHUH School Board and will “hopefully” occur sometime before the end of this calendar year.
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THIS WHOLE THING MAKES MY HEAD SPIN!!!! WHAT IS A "TIF"? I'LL GUESS IT IS SOMETHING THAT IF AGREED UPON BY BOTH CITIES WOULD HELP ACCOMPLISH SOME GOAL OUR "LEADERS" HAVE PLOTTED,
SCHEMED,OR DEVISED,THAT WILL PULL THEIR ASSES OUT OF THE QUAGMIRE THEY HAVE CREATED,AND FIRMLY,YET OH SO GENTLY,SO AS TO NOT RAISE TOO MUCH OUTCRY FROM US TAXPAYERS,
SHOVE IT FIRMLY UP OUR TAXPAYING ASSES,NEVER TO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.AND THEN PROCLAIM THEIR SUCCESS AT FINALLY CLINCHING A DEAL TO DEVELOP CEDAR CENTER NORTH.
THANK GOD!
SORRY TO ABBAS,YACOV'S,JACOBS JUDAIC BOOKSTORE,AND LONG AGO.... CORKY AND LENNYS(THEY GIT' WHEN THE GITTINS' WAS GOOD)WAS CORKYS NOT A GREAT PLACE TO GET A "NOSH" ?????? AND I'M A FRICKIN' GESU GRAD,IRISH CATHOLIC.....
THEY ALL PUT THEIR FAITH IN GOD.
UNFORTUNATELY,IN THIS CASE,GOD HAS MUCH BIGGER PROBLEMS TO DEAL WITH,HE HAD TO LEAVE IT TO LARRY,CURLY,AND MOE.LOGRASSO,WELO,AND MOE AS WE KNOW THEM.DOOMED FROM THE START.
WE ALWAYS ASKED THE NUNS AT SCHOOL "WHY DOESN'T GOD STOP THE "BAD" PEOPLE FROM HURTING US?",THE SISTERS TOLD US "GOD GAVE US FREE WILL,IT'S UP TO US TO CHOOSE WHETHER TO STOP THE "BAD" PEOPLE,OR LET THEM CONTINUE THEIR EVIL CONTROL OVER US,IT'S UP TO EACH OF US TO MAKE THAT CHOICE.GOD WILL NOT INTERFERE.
SORRY MY JEWISH BROTHERS,AND SISTERS.YOUR FATE,AS WELL AS OURS LIES IN THE HANDS OF POLITICIANS,
THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ARE GODLESS,GREEDY,IMMORAL,BLOODLESS LEECHES BENT ON SUCKING EVERY LAST BIT OF FREEDOM,EVERY LAST PENNY THEY CAN UNTIL NOTHING IS LEFT,,,,
OUR BODYS STRIPPED TO THE BONE,OUR SOULS EXPOSED AND RAW...
BUT,I CAN'T.I WILL NOT GIVE UP THE LAST BIT OF HUMANITY I HAVE.THE LAST BIT OF COMPASSION,UNDERSTANDING,OF FORGIVNESS THAT I HAVE IN MY VERY SOUL.I WILL NOT FORSAKE MY HUMANITY FOR A FEW IGNORANT,MISGUIDED,EGOTISTICAL,MANIACAL,POLITICIANS,LARRY,CURLY,AND MOE,THAT HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOT ONE BIT OF COMMON SENSE,NO BUSINESS ACCUMEN,,,,,JESUS CHRIST,THEY CHOSE TO BECOME POLITICIANS,GOD HAVE MERCY ON THEIR SOULS....
CEDAR CENTER IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE......IT IS BAD POLITCS,BAD DEVELOPERS,NOT THE RIGHT PAYOFFS,BRIBES,AND BACKROOM DEALS.
WHERE'S THE MAFIA WHEN YA' NEED 'EM?
C'MON,,,DO YA THINK THEY WOULDA SCREWED THIS PLUM OF A DEAL UP?????
O.K. I'VE TRIED TO READ,ABSORB,CONSUME,UNDERSTAND,
COMPREHEND,DIGEST,ALL THE GOINGS ON WITH OUR CITY'S FIASCO ATTEMPTING TO TAKE OVER CEDAR CENTER.ENOUGH ALREADY!
IT IS WHAT IT IS.OUR LEADERS HAVE PUT US IN THE "BEND OVER,HERE IT COMES" POSITION,AND THERE IS NO GOING BACK.BY GOD,WE HAD BETTER GET CONTROL OF THIS BOONDOGGLE OR WE WILL BE GETTIN' THE SHAFT UP THE ANAL CANAL FOR THE NEXT 20-30 YEARS,AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE LAST YEARS OF MY LIFE PAYING FOR THESE BUMBLING,MORONIC,IDIOTIC,INEPT CLOWNS;WELO,LOGRASSO,AND MOE.
GET IT DONE,GET SOMETHING BUILT,
LET US GET SOME SOME TAX MONEY TO PAY FOR THE STUPIDITY,FLOUNDERING,WASTED ATTEMPTS OF THESE EGOTISTICAL MORONS.
IT IS NOT POLITICAL,IT IS NOT RELIGIOUS,IT IS NOT RACIAL(SORRY RUTH GRAY)
WHAT IS FORGOTTEN IS THAT LONG AFTER ALL OF YOU "POLITICIANS" ARE LONG GONE FROM YOUR OFFICE,YOUR "TOUR OF DUTY",SO TO SPEAK,WE,THE LIFELONG CITIZEN ARE LEFT TO DEAL WITH YOUR MISDEALINGS.
MY GOD,YOU PEOPLE HAVE NO RESPECT,NO HONOR,NO IDEA OF THE OF THE RESPONSIBILITY,THE TRUST,THE BELIEFS,THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS THAT WE ELECT YOU TO DEFEND AND UPHOLD FOR ALL CITZENS.
WHOA,WHAT,CITIZENS,WHAT,,,,,
WHAT????CITIZENS,,,,,WHAT,,,,,,
NO WAY,,,,,DO WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT??????ARE YOU CRAZY??????WE WERE ELECTED TO DO WHAT WE THINK IS GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE....NOT WHAT THEY THINK IS RIGHT,,,,RIGHT????
RIGHT......RIGHT?????????RIGHT.....
CAPS GUY: A link has been added to this post which gives information regarding “TIF” or “Tax Increment Financing.” The City of SE and The Coral Company have made the proposal to the Cleveland Heights / University Heights School District. Cedar Center is in the CHUH taxing district. It boils down to this: CHUH School District foregoes collecting $14 million in property tax money from the Cedar Center shopping center for the next 30 years with the promise of increased property value and supposedly more money to collect from the property taxes 30 years from now. In the meantime, you the taxpayer pays off the $14 million “loan” for the next 30 years in lieu of the tax money going to the CHUH School District. How will the taxpayers of CHUH view this scenario when in fact their School District is actively seeking budget cuts? When 30 years rolls around, there is no guarantee that this “new and improved” shopping center won’t be considered and declared “blighted”, dilapidated, outdated or obsolete causing our children’s elected officials to take it over via the threat of eminent domain. All this to defray the costs to the developer. A fascinating scenario, don’t you think?
Thanks for your always interesting and perceptive perspectives. Have you considered running for council this fall?
Hey CAPS GUY.....2 words....decaffeinated coffee. You're losing your message in your rants.
Oh and CAPS GUY, one more thing- another absurd aspect of the situation is this: How is it that the City of South Euclid entered into a development agreement with Coral, when the major sources of funding were based on the PRESUMPTION that CHUH School District would pass on $14 million….? AND….also assume that the Cuyahoga County Port Authority would automatically play a significant roll and provide financing assistance…..? How is it possible to enter into a “development agreement” based on a totally unsecured set of financial circumstances which may or may not actually come to fruition? And to toss in just one more peculiar twist to the whole thing: The Port Authority passed a resolution to deemphasize their investment in suburban retail projects due to the oversaturated situation. Reference links will be added soon to support the previous. Thanks again for paying attention to what’s going on.
Of course Rubin wants to redefine the original plan: the strip mall business model is effectively dead.
The bankruptcy of General Growth Properties (owner of Beachwood Place) last week all but signaled the next phase of the financial crisis that the smart money has known about for three years now: commercial real estate.
The wise sages at City Hall need to explain to us how, at a time when deflationary pressures are eliminating disposable income, when we already have all of the Wal-Marts, Home Depots and Starbucks we can, that we need *more* commercial real estate?
According to the CNN link below: "In just the first quarter of 2009, retail tenants at these centers have vacated 8.7 million square feet of commercial space". Re-read that: IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2009. That 8.7 million in the January - March period is more than all of 2008 combined!
Lest anyone think that this demand will come back - think again. Examine the expansion plans for the Fortune 500, 250 and 100 companies in America: they've all been scaled back significantly to, in the words of Texas Instruments' CEO, "A new, lower baseline" of consumption.
The question that now must be asked is this: what will be the new plan, and how much will SE be liable for funding? My guess is that Rubin has done the math and determined that this project will not make money - more to the point, in an up economy he could have built the project and then sold it off quickly at a profit to someone else. Today he doesn't have that option, and better for him: he has an escape clause in the form of the present 'agreement' which expires in about a week.
So, what goes up in its place? Apartments? No demand for housing. Green space? Would be nice - but not for $20 million. A significantly scaled back strip mall? Possibly.
More likely? Nothing for the next three years at a minimum, five years as a best guess. All the while the city will be losing out on tax revenue (apriori - what was it, around $400,000 per year?), plus repayment on a $20 million bond which will most likely see its interest rate adjust up when bondholders hear that a) the city finances are tightening, and b) the original development project has fallen through.
I would bet that within the next 60 days we'll know the ultimate fate of this project under Peter Rubin and what his revised terms will be. My guess is that they'll be none too good for the city and its residents.
Some more reading for you on CRE:
http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/10/news/economy/retail_malls/index.htm
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aegH6dXG8H8U
http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSTRE53F68P20090417
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=aeVjBaVLQNgY&refer=economy
http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/16/markets/thebuzz/index.htm?cnn=yes
WELL,WELL,WELL....QUITE A LENGTHY DISCOURSE;MUCH,MUCH,MUCH MORE INFORMATION AND INSIGHT INTO THIS CAN OF WORMS WE ARE STUCK WITH.WE DIDN'T OPEN IT,WE DIDN'T WANT IT,BUT LIKE A PARENT WITH AN OUT OF CONTROL,MANIACAL KID,IT'S OUR BABY NOW!AS THE LAST (VERY GOOD!)BLOGGER SAYS,(CORAL),RUBIN,SURELY WILL HAVE AN "OUT" OF THIS DEAL.
AND WHAT WILL WE END UP WITH ON THAT LAND?
I KNOW THE WISE SAGES AT CITY HALL MEANT WELL.WHO COULD FORESEE WHAT WE WERE HEADED FOR ECONOMICALLY.
(THE SCUMBAG MONEYLENDERS,MORTGAGE BROKERS,GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS CHARGED WITH ENFORCING LAWS,,,ALL KNEW...WHAT WOULD EVENTUALLY COME CRASHING DOWN ON US),BUT I REFER TO US,SORT OF BOTTOM FEEDERS,WHEN IT COMES TO "HIGH ROLL'N ECONOMICS".EXACTLY WHY OUR WISE,WISE,SAGES AT CITY HALL SHOULD STAY OUT OF CERTAIN AREAS.
AND LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT,
CHUH SCHOOL DISTRICT IS PASSING UP WHAT WOULD SEEM TO BE "REAL",COLLECTIBLE BUSINESS TAX MONEY,(ASSUMING A SHOPPING CENTER IS BUILT)IN FAVOR OF HOPING PROPERTY VALUES WILL RISE IN CLEVE. HGTS.,AND UNIV. HGTS.?????????
BAAAHHHHH-HAHHHHHH,YOU'RE KIDDIN' ME.........OOHHHHPULLLEEEZZE,NO FRICKIN' WAY!C'MON,,,,PROPERTY VALUES GOING UP???? CLEVELAND HEIGHTS,,,,,U.H.,REMOTE POSSIBILITY,'CAUSE OF JOHN CARROLL COLLEGE.
I GIVE CREDENCE TO WISER PEOPLE WHO HAVE ASKED,AND THEY ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER,"HAS ANY SHOPPING CENTER DEVELOPMENT EVER INCREASED THE HOME VALUES IN THE AREA?" ANYWHERE IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY OF OURS? NO,NO,NO,A RESOUNDING BIG FAT "NO".IT MAY MAKE SOME HOMES VALUABLE COMMERCIAL REALESTATE.BUT IT WILL NOT INCREASE OUR HOMES VALUES.ESPECIALLY LOOKING 30 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.I SMELL SOMETHING VERY,VERY,FISHY.AND IT AIN'T THE OLD LOX BURIED UNDER WHERE OLD CORKY'S USED TO BE.
I DO GET WORKED UP.AND BELIEVE ME MY FRIEND,I REALLY TRY(AT TIMES) TO CONTROL MYSELF.YES I DO GET CARRIED AWAY.AND YES,I KNOW THAT WHEN IT COMES TO POLITICS,LAW,BUSINESS,I AM SORELY LACKING IN SKILLS AND EDUCATION.
BUT I'M ALSO NOT A COMPLETE MORON.
NOW THAT LAST WRITER,HE'S GOT SKILLS.HE SHOULD RUN FOR A COUNCIL SEAT.PROBABLY IS.
I READ THE "SUN",AND THEN I USE SEO TO GAIN MUCH,MUCH,MORE INSIGHT AND ACTUAL VIDEOS OF OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS,AND THEN I FLIP OUT.WHAT A BUNCH OF LOONS.
AS ALWAYS,I THANK SEO FOR THIS SITE.AS MUCH FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND INSIGHT,AS FOR YOUR ALLOWING US TO SPOUT OFF.
SEO DOES PRESENT A GREAT SERVICE
TO THE PUBLIC.AND YOU DO MAKE A DIFFERANCE.
SEO readers and friends,
Stay tuned for the new Ceder Center sweetheart deal between City Hall and Coral. We'll all be paying for this many years to come! Blaming on the economy is the oldest trick in the book. Untold millions are probably being spent that won't even show on the "possibly cooked" books [ie: new hires, legal fees, diversion of duties, etc....]. It better have a bocce ball court.
BOCCE BALL,NOW YER' TALKIN' MY FRIEND.SERIOUSLY....WE NEED THIS KIND OF "OUT OF THE BOX",CREATIVE THINKING,,,,CREATING SOMETHING DIFFERENT,SOMETHING SUSTAINABLE,THINGS THAT WILL STAND THE TEST OF TIME,BECAUSE THEY ARE BUILT ON THE SIMPLE HUMAN NEED TO CONGREGATE,TO TEST EACH OTHER,TO PLAY COMPETITIVE GAMES.GAMES THAT PEOPLE OF ALL AGES,RACES,AND RELIGIONS CAN PLAY AND COMPETE WITH,AND TALK,ARGUE,CHALLENGE EACH OTHER MENTALLY,SPIRITUALLY,AND PHYSICALLY.
HOW ABOUT THIS IDEA,,,,SCREW CORAL,SCREW ANY DEVELOPER,DID WE(SOUTH EUCLID) BUY THIS PIECE OF LAND OR WHAT? IS IT OURS? MAYOR WELO,IF THIS LAND BELONGS TO US,AND "WE" KEEP PUTTING FORTH THIS "APPEARANCE" THAT WE ARE A "GREEN" COMMUNITY,STATE OF THE ART,HIGH TECH,FAMILY ORIENTED,ALL INCLUSIVE,TOLERANT,ETHNICALLY DIVERSE,ECO-FRIENDLY PLACE TO LIVE......I PROPOSE WE FINISH THE DEMOLITION OF CEDAR CENTER NORTH,
REMOVE ANY TOXIC LOX BURIED UNDER THE OLD CORKYS,REMOVE ANY RANCID CRAB CLAWS LEFT BEHIND BY HARVEY'S,
(OH,THOSE WERE GOOD,MMM,MMM,MMM),
AND GOD ONLY KNOWS HOW MANY EGG ROLLS FROM CHINA GATE,
AND MOST OF ALL,BEST OF ALL,
MOST AWESOME BURGERS EVER,,,,,
MAWBYS BURGERS,,,,GRILLED ONIONS,PAPARIKA,ALL FRIED ON THE GRIDDLE,RIGHT IN FRONT OF YA',,,,
SOMETHIN' SPECIAL FER SURE.
SORRY,LOSING FOCUS(AS I WAS TOLD)
I PROPOSE THIS TO OUR ESTEEMED WISE LEADERS-BUILD NOTHING ON THIS LAND.
WELL NOT NOTHING,NO BIG ASS USELESS SHOPPING CENTER CRAP!
PICTURE THIS,GRASS,TREES,PICNIC TABLES,BOCCE BALL COURTS,MAYBE SOME HANDBALL COURTS,LET'S STICK IT UP WHOLE FOODS BUTT AND HAVE AN OPEN AIR FARMERS MARKET LIKE SHAKER SQUARE DOES.MAYBE A LOT OF TREES,SOME OF THOSE CHESS TABLE THINGS.HAVE SOME HOT DOG,OR COFFEE VENDORS SET UP STANDS.IN THE WINTER HAVE ALL THE DISPLAYS FOR ALL RELIGIONS,KWANZA,HANNUKA,CHRISTMAS......
C'MON...YOU WANT TO BE GREEN,YOU WANT TO BE DIVERSE,YOU WANT OLD PEOPLE TO MIX WITH YOUNG,YOU WANT A PLACE WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY CAN COME TO PLAY,RELAX,BUY SOME FRESH FOOD,,,
YOU WANT TO PUT THIS LAND IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY THAT IT REALLY CAN BE USED,AND BENEFIT ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY,AND OUR NEIGHBORS....
IF WE HAD SUCH A "GREEN" SPACE,MAYBE OUR PROPERTY VALUES WOULD INCREASE.MORE MALLS,STORES,
BIG BOX,SMALL BOX,SHOE BOX,WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM IS NOT GOING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO OUR COMMUNITY.IT IS NOT GOING TO INCREASE OUR PROPERTY VALUES.BAAAHHHAAAAA...I JUST GOTTA' LAUGH WHEN I HEAR THAT!
JANE,JANE,JANE,,,YER' WORRIED ABOUT CAR EXHAUST.HOW ABOUT YOUR NAME ATTACHED TO A CITY "GREEN AREA",FOR ALL TIME? BOCCE BALL,SHUTTLE BOARD,HAND BALL,FARMERS MARKET,FOOD VENDORS,,,
OH MY,,,I'M GETTIN' EXCITED JUST THINKING 'BOUT IT.THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT.....THAT IS A HUGE CHUNK OF LAND...FROM CEDAR RD. BACK TO THE BRICK WALL,FROM WARRENSVILLE
TO WHATEVER THAT STREET IS ON THE END...(HEY,I'M ONLY CAPS GUY,NOT A SURVEYOR...)....
HOLY CRAP CITY HALL.YOU BOUGHT IT.WELO,BE THE "DONALD" THAT YOU WANT TO BE.DO THIS...OR YOU'RE FIRED!WE'RE ALREADY SCREWED.....
DO SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL WITH THIS LAND,AND MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT WILL LAST FOR ALL GENERATIONS TO COME.
YES,GREAT STONE MONUMENTS SUCH AS THE PYRAMIDS,MAYAN TEMPLES,BIG GIANT HEADS ON EASTER ISLAND,STAND AS MONUMENTS TO GREAT LEADERS OF PAST CIVILIZATIONS.THEY HAVE STOOD THE TEST OF TIME.FORGET THAT,YOU AIN'T GONNA DO IT.BUT THE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE GATHERED,TO RELAX,TO TRADE,TO EXCHANGE IDEAS,THOSE PLACES HAVE BECOME THE CITIES WE NOW LIVE IN.
THERE I GO AGAIN,,DAMN YOU SEO,,,
TOO LONG,TOO MUCH,,,,
YOU GUYS ARE KILLIN' ME.AND PROBABLY JOE TOO!AND THEN I READ THE CITIZEN AND THE TRASH PICKUP.
JOE,AND ME(CAPS GUY),WELL,,,WE SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE PEOPLE WE HAVE ELECTED DON'T ALWAYS SEE THINGS THE WAY WE DO.AND I'M NOT SURE WHY.BUT ONE THING FOR SURE IS,AND THIS NEW GUY BETTER LEARN IS,TRASH PICKUP,IDLEING CARS,WINDOW TREATMENTS,POINT OF SALE INSPECTIONS,NOTHING IS BEYOND THESE ELECTED OFFICIALS REACH IF THEY WANT TO GET A HOLD OF YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY.IT SEEMS NOWADAYS,THE MORE YOU EARN,THE MORE YOU HAVE TO "SHARE" WITH YOUR LESS FORTUNATE NEIGHBORS.AND THE GOVERNMENT WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU CONTRIBUTE WHAT THEY DEEM IS YOUR ACCEPTABLE CONTRIBUTION TO THESE LEECHES,SORRY,LESS FORTUNATE MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY,(SCUMBAG,WELFARE,FOOD STAMP,BABY PRODUCING....)OHH LORDY......
SORRY,SORRY,THERE I GO AGAIN,,,
PLEASE TELL CAPS GUY,KEEP IT UNDER CONTROL...
LIKE I SAID,IT'S HARD SOMETIMES.
WHAT DID CAPT. PENNY SAY????
"YOU CAN FOOL SOME OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME....ALL OF THE PEOPLE SOME OF THE TIME,BUT YA CAN'T FOOL MOM".
WHAT THE HELL.......???
MOMS WELO,BUILD THE PARK THING....
YOU'LL GO DOWN IN HISTORY.......
PLEASE,YER MAKIN' ME CRAZY...
February 8, 2010
Has anyone questioned the following sentence on page 4 of the January South Euclid update. The Subject and Title of the article is "Cedar Center Revitalizaton"
The sentence is (emphasis mine): "The moving forward process includes approval of the TAX INCREMENT FINANCING AGREEMENT TO PAY FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SITE ... "
My question is: Who approves the tax increment agreement?????
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